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Fri, 01 May 2009 18:11:07
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I'm playing Broken Sword right now and given that the genre is so small these days I was wondering why smaller developers weren't making more of them. Old school style. With digital distribution, hard drives, touch screens and pointers the time is ripe to reap the rewards. 

I assumed that small teams would turn to these titles to make a name for themselves. You have a writer, some witty dialogue. An artist can do the backgrounds and characters, a few programmers. I'm not talking massive games but shouldn't you be seeing shorter Sam and Max style graphic adventures being made, in 2-D and digitally distributed?

How can such an iconic and delightful genre just die?

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Fri, 01 May 2009 18:34:37
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it didn't die, it just became niche Nyaa

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Sat, 02 May 2009 02:48:06
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I'm going with the average gamer has gotten progressively more stupid, and consequently less capable to complete games requiring any semblance of thought.
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Sat, 02 May 2009 03:41:11
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Actually due to the stated reasons there seems to be a huge amount of amatuer adventure games that are actually quite good.

I wonder if anyone had some sales figures on the adventure games that are released. They are there, they just receive little coverage by the press.

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Sat, 02 May 2009 04:07:48
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Space Quest IV: Roger Wilco and the Time Rippers and King's Quest VI: Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow were some of the best PC games I played as a kid. I'd venture to say these games are just as immersive as 3D games, and a lot more engaging. I undoubtedly learned a thing or two playing these games, even if it just improved my problem-solving skills.

I saw a "making of" for Kings Quest where it was a whole giant production team, storylines pasted on the wall, etc. But you're right... with today's technology, a team of a few people could probably put out one of these games within a year, just working in their spare time.

I think most of the software engineers are preoccupied making applications for the iPhone right now though.

Edit: Here it is, hilariously outdated and all. $500 million a year industry LOL
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Sat, 02 May 2009 06:32:49
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Yodariquo said:
I'm going with the average gamer has gotten progressiver more stupid, and consequently less capable to complete games requiring any semblance of thought.

 Huh?

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Sat, 02 May 2009 12:13:44
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I thought that this would be the genre of choice for small teams or imaginative people. I mean compare making a graphic adventure to making a proper 3-D game.

I go between Paris and Ireland in Broken sword. They want to add a new location, your artist draws and colours a background. Your writer does some new dialogue. You animate some characters and have a few hotspots for clicking. It can't be that hard.

It sounds like a really cheap way to make a game and tell a good story with a lot of charm. Digital distribution should make these games ubiquitous.

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Sat, 02 May 2009 19:08:31
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Full throttle intro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzEWGaqdtcg&feature=related

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Sun, 03 May 2009 00:22:03
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http://www.agdinteractive.com/

If you like old school adventure games check these guys out.  They've been remaking old Sierra Online games and have done a pretty good job.  They've remade King's Quest and Quest for Glory II, but King's Quest II is their triumph.  They took a very bare bones game and gave it a very detailed story that fits right into the King's Quest mythology.  I highly HIGHLY recommend you download this.  It's free and is a great way to kill a weekend.

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Mon, 04 May 2009 13:14:53

Does it have speech?

I will download it on the other comp.

Anyone remember Police quest? Happy

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Mon, 04 May 2009 13:39:48

gamingeek said:

Does it have speech?

I will download it on the other comp.

Anyone remember Police quest? Happy

I don't think so.  Don't really remember. It's been like a year or two since I've played it.

And yes I remember Police Quest.  Frankly I wasn't really a fan of the series.  The first was kind of meh, Police Quest 2 was pretty good, but three was terrible.  And then after that it changed formats when it went to Police Quest SWAT and I never considered it again.

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Mon, 04 May 2009 13:51:19

I really want to download this free Beneath a steel sky thing. But does it have speech and is there somewhere I can get it without registering an account or credit card?

I know its legally free at some places, but I cant remember where.

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Mon, 04 May 2009 19:02:01

gamingeek said:

I really want to download this free Beneath a steel sky thing. But does it have speech and is there somewhere I can get it without registering an account or credit card?

I know its legally free at some places, but I cant remember where.

good old games

i think you only have to register an email perhaps.  i'm pretty sure no credit card required

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Mon, 04 May 2009 20:22:28

Yodariquo said:
I'm going with the average gamer has gotten progressiver more stupid, and consequently less capable to complete games requiring any semblance of thought.

Hey, don't you tell me what I... I... Shut up!

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Tue, 05 May 2009 03:54:15

gamingeek said:

I really want to download this free Beneath a steel sky thing. But does it have speech and is there somewhere I can get it without registering an account or credit card?

I know its legally free at some places, but I cant remember where.

 Yep just e-mail. And there was sound for me. 

Lure of the Tempresse's sound dind't work for me,t hough. BASS is much better anyway.

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Tue, 05 May 2009 10:02:45

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gamingeek said:

I really want to download this free Beneath a steel sky thing. But does it have speech and is there somewhere I can get it without registering an account or credit card?

I know its legally free at some places, but I cant remember where.

 Yep just e-mail. And there was sound for me. 

Lure of the Tempresse's sound dind't work for me,t hough. BASS is much better anyway.

 When I say sound I mean spoken dialouge all the way through the game. Because I remember back in the early 90s when I had these game, they came on about 15 floppy discs, each disc was like 1.5mb LOL And then much later CD rom versions came with full speech. 

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Tue, 05 May 2009 10:18:18

gamingeek said:

Foolz said:

gamingeek said:

I really want to download this free Beneath a steel sky thing. But does it have speech and is there somewhere I can get it without registering an account or credit card?

I know its legally free at some places, but I cant remember where.

 Yep just e-mail. And there was sound for me. 

Lure of the Tempresse's sound dind't work for me,t hough. BASS is much better anyway.

 When I say sound I mean spoken dialouge all the way through the game. Because I remember back in the early 90s when I had these game, they came on about 15 floppy discs, each disc was like 1.5mb LOL And then much later CD rom versions came with full speech. 

 From I can remember all the the dialogue was spoken. I might be wrong, though, and minor bits didn't have sound, but I can't be sure because I ended up reading the dialogue quickly and then skipping to the next bit of dialogue. LOL

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Tue, 05 May 2009 17:23:03
This thread makes me happy.  I love old school adventure games.  I missed out on most of the Lucas Arts ones, but I was a huge Sierra fanboy at the time.  I played all of the King's Quest, Police Quest, Space Quest and Quest for Glory games(except for QFG5 which I sadly missed out on)... 

Quest for Glory 3: Wages of War is still one of my absolute favorite games.  I haven't had a chance to play it in years and I miss it so much.
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Tue, 05 May 2009 17:29:05
You weren't missing out on QFGV.  It had a lot of the old characters come back, but it didn't feel at all like the Quest for Glory games.  I guess it wasn't a bad game, but it was just too different.
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Tue, 05 May 2009 17:37:44
That is good to know.  My gut told me that it was a letdown compared to the other games in the series, but I always wondered.
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