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Wed, 04 Sep 2019 02:18:25
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Foolz said:

Nah, I've watched Jo Anderson, and dude takes 1 hour to say that Dark Souls 3 enemy placement is bad, boss battles are repetitive, it has corridor shooter level design and the world isn't interconnected; he doesn't do this any more tangibly than written critics who notice shit do, he just repeats himself more than they do, sure there's video footage of what he's talking about so if the audience is illiterate or the critic is a bad writer the audience won't miss anything like you say, but I'm not illiterate and don't care what people who can't write think, because they probably also can't think. Nyaa This can hardly be considered an genuine advantage when the fundamental part of a video essay is writing, and even as a video, taking 1 hour to show 3 basic concepts is a catastrophic failure.



But hey, even if I were to accept your premise, at least you admit it doesn't count!

Saying those sentences without explaining why the enemy placement is bad (which he does explain why they are), or why some boss battles are repetitive (which he explains they are) is the root of my disagreement. With Anderson I don't get "it has an interconnected world"...the end. I get "it's an interconnected world, because x links into blah blah blah blah blah blah" . I don't give a fuck that he could dial it back a bit, I get more information from one n not the other. I get more interesting criticism or talking points from one n not the other.


That is a measurable difference than any of the written joints do. Arguing otherwise is arguing in poor faith slick. Because I would rather get the details now than anyone who can actually write, but he doesn't actually say fucking anything.

I don't think it counts because it still has similar issues, and they just found a way to do the same movie review issues but in a longer drawn out format. I don't think they explore the mechanics enough, I think that stupid youtuber thing where they go over the entire plot of the story bit by bit by bit, which any asswipe could do, not the least of which is I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE DUMBASS VIDEO GAME STORY YOU STUPID CUNT!

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Wed, 04 Sep 2019 02:45:51
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Saying those sentences without explaining why the enemy placement is bad (which he does explain why they are), or why some boss battles are repetitive (which he explains they are) is the root of my disagreement. With Anderson I don't get "it has an interconnected world"...the end. I get "it's an interconnected world, because x links into blah blah blah blah blah blah" . I don't give a fuck that he could dial it back a bit, I get more information from one n not the other. I get more interesting criticism or talking points from one n not the other.








That is a measurable difference than any of the written joints do. Arguing otherwise is arguing in poor faith slick. Because I would rather get the details now than anyone who can actually write, but he doesn't actually say fucking anything.

I don't think it counts because it still has similar issues, and they just found a way to do the same movie review issues but in a longer drawn out format. I don't think they explore the mechanics enough, I think that stupid youtuber thing where they go over the entire plot of the story bit by bit by bit, which any asswipe could do, not the least of which is I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE DUMBASS VIDEO GAME STORY YOU STUPID CUNT!

My post in no way implies he doesn't explain himself. It merely says that he's an awful critic doing awful criticism because he requires one fucking hour to explain why those things are the way they are. Some written critics explain their conclusions and use details, it's absurd to suggest they don't. You could absolutely make the claim that fewer do, though. That would be a reasonable claim; indeed very few written critics do, while many YouTube critics do. So you'd be right if you just claimed that's the standard style of criticism on YouTube for games, whereas in written content for games it's rare. But you seem to be claiming it doesn't exist in written criticism, which would make you wrong.

Also, almost none of them require 5,000-30,000 words to say what the 1-3 hour YouTube critics say, so the extraordinary verbosity of YouTube critics is also another objective difference. But it's not a big difference because the written articles people go nuts about they usually also go nuts about just because they're long, too. WinkWink

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Wed, 04 Sep 2019 04:21:23
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My post in no way implies he doesn't explain himself.

Then it's a shit point, mate. I acknowledged homeboy could stand to edit his shit better, but they offer something the written shit doesn't. So I'll go back, they are better, significantly so. Still bad. So the end result is that gaming criticism as a work is still trash, but you can kick rocks on the "some written critics", bitch NONE OF THEM DO. I am not speaking in figurative term, I am using the term in absolute terms. 100%, as in all of the written reviews on the planet of earth, are abject failures on a basic fundamental level of explaining fucking anything. I obviously accept Anderson n Turbo Button are exceptions.


But there aint no exception in written reviews.

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Wed, 04 Sep 2019 04:37:01
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But there aint no exception in written reviews.

I assume this is deliberately a double negative, and you're admitting your absurd claim is false.

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Wed, 04 Sep 2019 04:41:36

100%.


Not 12


not 50 percent


not 99.999999999%


100%.

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Wed, 04 Sep 2019 06:00:27
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Gagan said:

100%.




Not 12




not 50 percent




not 99.999999999%




100%.

100% that's what you're doing?

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Wed, 04 Sep 2019 12:05:36
Gagan said:

Also game journos were always bad, they didn't suddenly get bad, you just were less woke than  you are today.

I've always been unwoke.

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Wed, 04 Sep 2019 14:20:43
Foolz said:

100% that's what you're doing?

hunnit pa cent

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Wed, 04 Sep 2019 23:09:08
Gagan said:

hunnit pa cent

Good to know you're willing to admit when you're wrong. Happy

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Thu, 05 Sep 2019 02:38:20

You in denial of fax tomas. Face the fax boyo.

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Thu, 05 Sep 2019 08:00:25

Exhibit A.

Exhibit B.

Exhibit C (I will admit that this is partially a joke inclusion, but it's also the only one that contains anything interesting due to its B.F. Skinner references).

And if we're being intellectually honest, strategy guides and long, old consumer value reviews are structurally the same and just as uninteresting as this shit is. But mercifully, in the case of the latter, not as long.

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Thu, 05 Sep 2019 20:14:07
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>Gags: One hunnit Pa Cent of reviews are trash

>Tomas: posts 3 things that aren't reviews


The absolute state of New Zealand.

But there aint no exception in written reviews.

ahem

Foolz said:

Only gonna read here, but sure, okay it's more of what I'd like to read and have explored with writing n analysis of games. It's why I can sit through a JosephAnderson vid no matter how badly paced and overly long they are, because that effort is found in his description of the gameplay and its systems.

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And if we're being intellectually honest, strategy guides and long, old consumer value reviews are structurally the same and just as uninteresting as this shit is. But mercifully, in the case of the latter, not as long.

Strategy guides wouldn't fit, it would be intellectually disnhonest as fuck toe even act like they would. For starters they aren't a crituqe of any kind, and rarely are they break downs of a mechanic.


There is usually some lip service done early, but very little explaination of why a player would do x. The part where they walkthrough the game is just that, it's a walkthrough. Describing what's ahead and an optimized way to deal with it, with maybe an alternative option. Not the same thing where I'm asking you to explain the systems, what they do, what niches they cover, how they work with other mechanics, and then go into what decisions they have the player make. Tho if we're arguing strategy guides are better than game reviews? Uh yeah sure, they at least serve their purpose.


Written game reviews are literally worthless.

I concede and hold my L tomas. Play Devil May Cry 3.

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Fri, 06 Sep 2019 09:26:19
aspro said:

Are ther eany good news sources anymore for gaming?

I pick up everything I need from gaming podcasts these days.

Wait... how did this thread get necro-bumped?  But yeah interesting I posted a very similar thread 7 years later Nyaa

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Sat, 07 Sep 2019 10:44:57

I knew something was off when I saw CVG listed. Anyway, what are video games? I know no news about this thing that I don't know.


By Miu Watanabe.

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Tue, 10 Sep 2019 08:26:24
edgecrusher said:

Remember when IGN used to have the BEST Nintendo news?

Then Cassamassina had to go & join Apple?

That's True. Then Jose Otero was boring and really in the campe for Nintendo... where did he leave IGN for to go work? OH THAT'S RIGHT NINTENDO!

Then they hired that piece of filth... Filip Miucin

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Tue, 10 Sep 2019 08:27:45
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Gagan said:

Also game journos were always bad, they didn't suddenly get bad, you just were less woke than  you are today.

I've always been unwoke.

I've been unwoke since I had a kid.

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Fri, 13 Sep 2019 02:40:29

https://medium.com/@DocSeuss/i-dont-think-i-like-prestige-games-f85ef5cc46d5

The absolute state of the goons Tomas apologized for. When will New Zealand stop holding Ls

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Fri, 13 Sep 2019 05:05:11
Gagan said:

https://medium.com/@DocSeuss/i-dont-think-i-like-prestige-games-f85ef5cc46d5

The absolute state of the goons Tomas apologized for. When will New Zealand stop holding Ls

I didn't even read the things I linked you to, do you expect me to read that?

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